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Delta’s CEO says the Boeing 737 Max 8 scandal has “traumatized” the aviation industry

But he still thinks Boeing’s planes are safe.

Emily Stewart
Emily Stewart covered business and economics for Vox and wrote the newsletter The Big Squeeze, examining the ways ordinary people are being squeezed under capitalism. Before joining Vox, she worked for TheStreet.

Delta CEO Ed Bastian said the Boeing 737 Max 8 scandal was “unthinkable” for the aviation industry — but he’s still standing by Boeing.

Delta’s fleet never included the Boeing 737 Max 8 planes that were involved in two deadly crashes, but the Atlanta-based company has plenty of other Boeing planes. Bastian is willing to vouch for their safety.

“Sixty percent of our airplanes that we fly are Boeing,” Bastian told Recode’s Kara Swisher and Jason Del Rey at the 2019 Code Conference in Scottsdale, Arizona, on Tuesday. “Boeing has been the most successful aviation company in the world.”

You can listen to the full interview now on our podcast Recode Decode with Kara Swisher, which is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, and TuneIn.

On March 10, Ethiopian Airlines flight 302 from Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, to Nairobi, Kenya, faltered and crashed soon after taking off, killing all 157 people on board. The incident came just months after a Lion Air flight of the same model took off from Jakarta, Indonesia, and crashed, killing all 189 passengers. After reports that the anti-stall system in Boeing 737 Max planes made it difficult for pilots to control aircraft without being overridden by the system, the models have been grounded all over the world as regulators probe what happened.

Bastian said Delta did look into buying the Boeing 737 Max planes for about a year but ultimately decided against it. He said the aircraft’s anti-stall system didn’t come up when the company was considering the 737 Max, but if Delta planned to buy it, the company “would have had some questions, but we never even went there.”

He said he has the “utmost confidence” that whatever the problem is, it will be solved. His stance makes sense, given that, as he said, most of Delta’s planes are Boeing planes, and if consumers are worried about Boeing jets, that could hurt Delta’s bottom line. (In the US, American Airlines and Southwest Airlines flew Boeing 737 Max 8 planes.)

More broadly, the Boeing scandal has been bad for the entire aviation industry and ballooned into a huge international scandal.

Vox’s Matt Yglesias explained what’s going on, and it’s a lot more than this anti-stall system. Boeing, in looking to outdo a competitor, made some less-than-ideal decisions about the plane and basically used software to get around a bunch of other problems with the model. Bastian trusts Boeing to do the right thing, but he acknowledged on Tuesday that the situation is still rocky.

“Honestly, it’s somewhat unthinkable what’s happened, and I think … we’ve been traumatized as an industry,” Bastian said. “We’re still wrapping our minds around what happened.”


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